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News Type: Other — Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:26 AM EST
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With the Christmas season quickly approaching, I was wondering what or if people say something to people they encounter during this time of year. When you are out shopping do you say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays? Or are you Jewish and say Happy Hanukkah! Or maybe you celebrate Kwanzaa, Or maybe you are a Scrooge type that doesn't like the season period! Perhaps you don't celebrate at all. Have you ever given a greeting to someone and they were non-receptive to it or told you they don't celebrate? What is your opinion?
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{"commentId":10573442,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
I used to hate Christmas, but now that I am older and it has became a time to share with my family I actually cherish it.
{"commentId":10573442,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
- 8 votes
#1 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:27 AM EST{"commentId":10590700,"authorDomain":"nevadadem-1274369"}
I say "Happy Festivus"
The holiday for the rest of us.
{"commentId":10590700,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"nevadadem-1274369"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":10591116,"authorDomain":"perrie"}
LOL!
{"commentId":10591116,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"perrie"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10591156,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10591418,"authorDomain":"nevadadem-1274369"}
The credit goes to Jerry Seinfeld and George Costanza.
{"commentId":10591418,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"nevadadem-1274369"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10598886,"authorDomain":"jaker023"}
wasn't this already debated in a recent article about a guy that got canned from Home Depot?
anyhow, I just say, "Have a good holiday", and they can interperate it to be whatever they want.
that phrase works b/c whether or not you celebrate Christmas, Channukah, or Kwanza, you are most likely off from work (for those 90% that still have a job) on New Year's, thus, you welcome those days.
For those of you that insist on saying, "Happy <whatever>" just b/c it is your holiday, how would you feel if someone said, "Happy Birthday" to you when it is their birthday?
{"commentId":10598886,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"jaker023"}
{"commentId":10614981,"authorDomain":"RuthyJObservations"}
FW — Christmas to me is the time to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, with family gathered around. I love the Church Services, and the opportunity to worship our Lord. The children's program is a tradition and I love hearing them sing. Although there is no white Christmas where I live now in Oklahoma, I well remember the ones in Wisconsin.
Merry Christmas and God bless us, everyone! GG
{"commentId":10614981,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"RuthyJObservations"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10626232,"authorDomain":"Missy2"}
I agree, Ruthy, and you should wish everyone in your congregation a Merry Christmas. Outside of church among strangers, though, it's not required.
{"commentId":10626232,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"Missy2"}
{"commentId":10573700,"authorDomain":"Rixar13"}
* Bah! Humbug!
50%
It is nice to see many people looking forward to family time and I haven't much family left but, I do have my wife and kids.
{"commentId":10573700,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"Rixar13"}
- 5 votes
#2 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:39 AM EST{"commentId":10573804,"authorDomain":"kjmatisz"}
I still say "Merry Christmas". Unless it is Chanukah, then I say "Happy Chanukah" Lest we all forget, Dec. 25 is still "Christmas", NOT "holiday"
{"commentId":10573804,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"kjmatisz"}
- 3 votes
#3 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:44 AM EST{"commentId":10575950,"authorDomain":"dwfillip"}
I am tired of the PC crap. Merry Christmas! If they don't like it; "tuff tiddy said the kitty, but the milk is still warm."
{"commentId":10575950,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"dwfillip"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":10576029,"authorDomain":"zomzom"}
Say whatever you please. I won't get offended if you don't mind when I say "Happy winter solstice" back to you.
{"commentId":10576029,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"zomzom"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":10576098,"authorDomain":"greglujan"}
"tuff tiddy said the kitty, but the milk is still warm."
I'm pretty sure that was one of the original lyrics in "silent night"
maybe it got lost in translation from the original German version
or was it "away in a manger?"
one of those, anyway.
Jesus really did mean for us to be alot more obnoxious about forcing the pagan-fused celebration of his birthday onto others. I'm with you!
{"commentId":10576098,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"greglujan"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10579561,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
I won't get offended if you don't mind when I say "Happy winter solstice" back to you.
I would be HAPPY to ahve someone wish another holiday's greetings upon me. I would just of course (like any logical person) assume that THAT was the holiday they celebrated. If a jewish person told me happy channakuh... I would say it right back to them. Cuz they're being friendly to a stranger... one of the points of the "season'. I celebrate Christmas, so that's what I wish. I shouldn't have to change MY holiday because someone else could possibly get offended by it. (and..... what a lame thing to get offended over... really.) Everyone should just say what they celebrate and we'll all just be happy in our diversity lol
{"commentId":10579561,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 13 votes
{"commentId":10580410,"authorDomain":"cathyg-1"}
Freedom, Ruthless, ZomZom and others...... YAY!!!! Normal Nice people!!! Well, don't know if you're normal ;) but at least you're nice! Merry Christmas, Happy Winter Solstice, and whichever else greeting you prefer!
{"commentId":10580410,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"cathyg-1"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10585814,"authorDomain":"jimmyjamm93442"}
I too say Merry Christmas, your just wishing people to be merry on that day, no matter if they "celebrate" it religiously. it's no different than saying Good morning, or Good afternoon, on Friday, we often wish co-workers good weekend, even though some of them may have to work the weekend shifts.. It's not whether you have it off, but to enjoy it, whereever you may be/ or what you may be doing..
{"commentId":10585814,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"jimmyjamm93442"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10591808,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
and... since the "happy holidays" movement just pisses me off lol I always make sure I say merry christmas at christmas.... and happy holidays at every other holiday for the entire year. Everyone always asks me why I say that, and I just reply with "you never know what other holiday someone might be celebrating... I don't wanna offend anyone"..... the only 2 responses I get are people who understand what I'm doing and laugh... and people who say "that's dumb".... and I reply with "that's RIGHT!.... now what other time of the year does this remind you of?".... and they walk away with their head hung in shame lol (cuz they are usually the happy holiday wishers at christmas time)
-I love my insanity
-No you don't!!
{"commentId":10591808,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10574018,"authorDomain":"greglujan"}
I say Merry Christmas if I know I'm talking to Christians,
otherwise, I say "I hope you have a nice holliday you heathen bastard"
(ok, I actually leave off the "heathen bastard" part and I genuinely mean that I hope the person has a nice holliday, I honestly mean to spread the cheer I feel during the season to others)
{"commentId":10574018,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"greglujan"}
- 7 votes
#4 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:54 AM EST{"commentId":10575173,"authorDomain":"greglujan"}
yeah,
life's too short, I find it best to say "oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean any offense, just wanting to wish you a nice holliday...
...you filthy heathen bastard"
;-)
{"commentId":10575173,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"greglujan"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":10576772,"authorDomain":"cathyg-1"}
Geez...if they can't take it in the good spirit it's meant, they need to go home and put their head back in their sandbox anyhow. I don't care what phrasing a person uses as long as it's nice wishes being directed my way.
{"commentId":10576772,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"cathyg-1"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":10577197,"authorDomain":"greglujan"}
their grumpiness comes from knowing deep down that they're going to burn for eternity in the afterlife for not believing as I do, I'm pretty sure.
{"commentId":10577197,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"greglujan"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10577384,"authorDomain":"cathyg-1"}
their grumpiness comes from knowing deep down that they're going to burn for eternity in the afterlife for not believing as I do, I'm pretty sure.
I always thought they were just hungover from all of the eggnog. No wonder they would look at me like that when I would hand them some aspirin!
{"commentId":10577384,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"cathyg-1"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10574394,"authorDomain":"lilgremlin"}
When at the mall the appropriate greeting is "That was MY parking spot you daffy b!tch! Did you NOT see my turn signal?!?"
But seriously, the mall is like the plague. To be avoided at all costs.
{"commentId":10574394,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"lilgremlin"}
- 6 votes
#5 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:12 PM EST{"commentId":10574487,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10574712,"authorDomain":"lilgremlin"}
Its even more of a nightmare for people who work in close proximity (but not AT) the mall. We use those roads every day 365 and then comes the holiday whack-jobs who forget such a thing as human decency in the name of holiday cheer. I like the people who nearly run over you cutting through your company's parking lot to get to the mall.
{"commentId":10574712,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"lilgremlin"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10574990,"authorDomain":"lilgremlin"}
I think permaybehaps I'm going to try a little online Christmas shopping this year. My family is talking about reducing the cost by doing a name draw, but my sis wants to still do presents for the kiddos (why do you think Christmas COSTS so MUCH). That may be the way to go or their going to have to get homemade stuff again.
You're right. Black and blue aren't traditional Christmas colors. Better to stay home and drink eggnog.
{"commentId":10574990,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"lilgremlin"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10575084,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10574526,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
Why in the hell are they blinking? LOL and then a few other selective
expletives
expletives
expletives....;) On a more serious note I say Merry Christmas.
{"commentId":10574526,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 7 votes
#6 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:19 PM EST{"commentId":10574747,"authorDomain":"lilgremlin"}
But of course after everything gets up I am proud of it, and happy with the results.
At least until next month's utilities bill comes. Yikes!! :)
{"commentId":10574747,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"lilgremlin"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10575179,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
See I usually want my lights to blink and they wont say I say a few other choice words too. 2 years ago I decided to forgo the whole lights, and Christmas tree thing, and you would have thought that I converted to a athiestic cult the way my family acted.
I know, I had a very bad pre holiday season last year (my dad died Thanksgiving day and my mom was diagnosed with cancer three weeks before that) and I was not in the mood for Christmas or Christmas decorating. My neighbors within a week after Thanksgiving were ringing the doorbell asking if I was not going to decorate or have my big Christmas party. I never knew people counted on it so much. I had neighbors who actually volunteered to do it for me. I put up a very large outside display and a gazzillion lights. The display is so large that people actually drive by with lights off real slow to view it. I did kinda feel bad when people would stop me and ask when and if I was going to set it up so they could come by and see it with the kids. But it was pretty nice not hassling with it all last year and I was able to focus on the real meaning of Christmas. I keep thinking I would like to skip this year also. But even my kids are asking early for me to put it up.
{"commentId":10575179,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 10 votes
{"commentId":10579780,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
Why in the hell are they blinking?
Can I assume that is taken from that hilarious version of the 12 days of christmas? lol
{"commentId":10579780,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10579972,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10580459,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
Can I assume that is taken from that hilarious version of the 12 days of christmas? lol
Moose,No....I think I had that phrase coined long before it ever showed up in the song =).
Need more egg nog, but then that usually makes climbing a ladder dangerous.
Yup Freedom, but when you've had a little nog, you are too gone to be afraid of the ladder or that very steep pitch in the roof line LOL ! ;)
{"commentId":10580459,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":10585925,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
The Holiday Season - BAH Humbug!!
{"commentId":10585925,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10591826,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
egg nog scares me cuz no one knows what's in it
{"commentId":10591826,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10591952,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10592864,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
Could someone explain to me why someone would mess up good alcohol with egg nog? It is like taking a Rembrandt then having some child use their paint by number paint set on the painting.
{"commentId":10592864,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10593867,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10594230,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
BAH Humbug!!
Alright Par......no Santa Baby ;) for you this year. You scrooge you!
{"commentId":10594230,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":10595364,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
Thanks Freedom! ;)
Kimberly - awww.. geesh.. dang nabit.. and I was looking forward to it.. damn ...when they say tricks are for kids..and being a kid at heart..I was looking forward to the "Santa Baby".. and I got you the outfit too.. guess I'll have to bring it back...
Scrooge played it smart... people spent their money, while he sat there and collected it... he used some of it to live on.. but not nearly as much as any other person that would freely give up their money on things that would only make them excited for that one moment in time. Where is his excitement was in the money... That is where my excitement is.. saving more money than I would spend.. Most people have a little scrooge in them..
{"commentId":10595364,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10603891,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
egg nog scares me cuz no one knows what's in it
Mine is always full of rum
{"commentId":10603891,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10604583,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
The most I ever put in my hard liquor would either be a splash of water, or an ice cube.
{"commentId":10604583,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10613648,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
The most I ever put in my hard liquor would either be a splash of water, or an ice cube.
I like to put Red Bull in Jager, it turns me into a party machine
{"commentId":10613648,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10618884,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
DaVoH - Hey!
So, it loosens your goose, eh?
{"commentId":10618884,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10619284,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
Hey Par4! Yessir, I get about three of those in me, you better watch out. That's when I get my best streaking done =)
{"commentId":10619284,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10619987,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
DaVoH - As my late mother-in-law use to say - Let your spirit be free where ever you may be. She also use to say that about gas too.
I would like a southern state - preferably towards the southwest - an entire state of nudist. From what this crazy country has showed me... I think that state would be filled within a month.
{"commentId":10619987,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10620229,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10620708,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
Let your spirit be free where ever you may be. She also use to say that about gas too.
DaVoH aka 'The Stankin' Streaker'
I am convinced that it is german for "Blackout"
I call it Knothead liquor. Because I always wake up with knots all over my head
{"commentId":10620708,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10620772,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
Alcohol limits your inhibitions.. when I drank.. it certainly lowered mine.. it placed me in a loving mood..
{"commentId":10620772,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10621079,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
Alcohol limits your inhibitions..
LOL that's a mild understatement ;), it sets mine absolutely free !
{"commentId":10621079,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10624980,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
Hell where were you when I was drinking?:)
You were not even born yet.. lol I met many women like that when I was drinking.. gawd! I would sit down at the bar.. and the next thing I knew some woman would sit down next to me and be all over me like skin divers suit. The ironic thing is .. It wasn't my style... I would actually ignore them and walk out... If I did get more familiar with her, I would of probably ended up in jail.. they are always the first ones to yell rape.
{"commentId":10624980,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10633901,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
Alcohol limits your inhibitions
It also lowers expectations, that's my favorite part
{"commentId":10633901,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10637625,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
You were not even born yet.. lol
I'm a little older than you might think Par....
It also lowers expectations, that's my favorite part
I never get that wasted LOL, I try to keep my selective sensibility about me. ;)
{"commentId":10637625,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10638430,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
I try to keep my selective sensibility about me
I don't even have that sober, much less foobarred
{"commentId":10638430,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10638558,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
Roflmao....at least you are honest about it!
{"commentId":10638558,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10639429,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
That's what I like about newsvine, you don't have to lie to kick it.
{"commentId":10639429,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10641571,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
Kimberly -Hey! 1947 (me) DaVoH - Hey!
I use to get so wasted I do not remember getting my wife pregnant both times.. There were times I drank .. the last thing I knew I was walking out of the bar... and then I woke up the next morning.. inbetween I could not remember...
I had to quit drinking.. so I did and that has been 30 years ago..
{"commentId":10641571,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10641863,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
I had to quit drinking.. so I did and that has been 30 years ago..
Good for you Par! I'm glad you realized there was a problem. So many don't until its too late.
{"commentId":10641863,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10643888,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
Well the 3 kids smartened me up.. it was either sober up or have many juvenile delinquents... so I quit. Plus having no memory .. is somewhat unsatisfactory...
{"commentId":10643888,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10644328,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
Hey Par4, That's awesome! I like to drink, but can't tolerate the day after, so I keep it to a minimum. Yeah, I'm a lightweight now, but have had some nights like yours of my own. I could always tell that I had fun, when I woke up naked
{"commentId":10644328,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10644445,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
lmao - DaVoH.. and what you wrote is nothing but the Bare Facts .. eh? lmao
{"commentId":10644445,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10644682,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10645025,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
the Bare Facts
Yep, it's the naked truth alright. And I show it proudly, except for now (cold showers do that to me)
I have had some of the best times I can't remember
What's worse, is when people you don't know come up telling you the crazy stuff you did. I always blame the liquor
{"commentId":10645025,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10645138,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
I tell people that it was the alcohol.. even when I am not drinking..
{"commentId":10645138,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10645271,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
lol, good one Par4! You have now given me a reason to be ignorant all the time, sweet
{"commentId":10645271,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10648360,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
I realized the older .. and getting wiser.. has its positive affect on some people, where we have lived a long time and much longer than some.. and we have seen many things.. that's where the wiser comes in.. we have experienced and seen many things.. the younger generation do not even know what has gone on.. or they have to read it in the history books.. and the books do not even tell the in depth stories..or behind the scenes.
They look upon us as crazy in the heads or worse language.. or they call us ignorant or they say we do not know... Experience and living through the decades accumulating all the mass of information from days gone by.. sooner or later they may know things in the future.. if they live that long.. but they will never know everything there is to know about the bygone eras.
{"commentId":10648360,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10654009,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
Yes, I know exactly what you are saying. A lot of things are taken for granted now. I see it in all age groups, but mostly in the younger ones though. They don't grasp the true meaning of some important days, like Veterans' Day. A very important day that we should recognize everyday. Our fallen soldiers are the reason we're still here. Thanks to our military, and everything they do.
{"commentId":10654009,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10661021,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
Yes.. that and much naivete and too optimistic in their view of things.. some have a difficult time seeing reality from the falsehoods displayed by many in power.
{"commentId":10661021,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10661473,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
A lot of kids are simply spoiled, I know mine are. My daughter has me so wrapped, she gets pretty much anything and everything she wants. I am nothing more than a puppet to her
{"commentId":10661473,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10663962,"authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
Ain't that the way with daughters? I have twin daughters.. double the $$
{"commentId":10663962,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"par4thecourse"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10664328,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
I have twin daughters.. double the $$
Your wallet, has my deepest sympathies. But I'm sure they were worth each penny
Ain't that the way with daughters?
Yes, I found out the hard way
{"commentId":10664328,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10748030,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
see? no one could tell me what's in eggnog.... erryone just changed the subject lol
{"commentId":10748030,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10752851,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
see? no one could tell me what's in eggnog.... erryone just changed the subject lol
Ohhhh Ruthless, Egg and Nog ! ;)
{"commentId":10752851,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10754651,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
Eggnog means, egg inside a small cup and is used as a toast to good health. Nog loosely translates into strong beer from East Anglia. Eggnog was a drink for upper class Londoners who controlled all the farming industry at the time, which mixed their milk and eggs with brandy. When it traveled to the US shores, rum from the Carribean took the place of brandy. Farms were more abundant here, so it became a more extended drink for the common class. Which consists of eggs, milk or cream, sugar, and some type of spirit.
{"commentId":10754651,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10754767,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
Hey DaVoh I knew that ;).
{"commentId":10754767,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10756941,"authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
I had to do some research
{"commentId":10756941,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"DaVoh"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10777776,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
lies lol
{"commentId":10777776,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10574738,"authorDomain":"zomzom"}
What Do You Say For The Holidays?
Yay, presents!
{"commentId":10574738,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"zomzom"}
- 7 votes
#7 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:27 PM EST{"commentId":10574836,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10575933,"authorDomain":"zomzom"}
I'm twenty eight, with a twenty-four year-old brother, thirty year-old brother and his thirty year-old wife. And that's still exactly how our parents' household is, every Christmas :)
{"commentId":10575933,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"zomzom"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":10575520,"authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
Having grown up in an area that I knew was very mixed in religions, I've always said, Happy Holidays. I never, ever want to offend anyone...at least at that time of the year! :)
{"commentId":10575520,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
- 4 votes
#8 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:01 PM EST{"commentId":10603209,"authorDomain":"Missy2"}
I go with "Have a nice holiday" if I don't know the person. If someone wishes me the same, I thank them.
{"commentId":10603209,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"Missy2"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10575701,"authorDomain":"scm80005"}
I usually give a sneer and a grunt to anyone and everyone who wishes any sort of holiday greeting to me. I am really that truly disgusted with this holiday. And it gets worse every year.
At least I have stopped telling people to 'go ---- yourself' ala Dick Cheney.
{"commentId":10575701,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"scm80005"}
- 1 vote
#9 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:09 PM EST{"commentId":10575759,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10575901,"authorDomain":"parkerj14"}
I don't worry about offending anyone, that's their problem. I say "Merry Christmas", and if they don't like it, then too bad. Keep the faith Christian brothers/sisters. Don't deny Christ like Peter did.
{"commentId":10575901,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"parkerj14"}
- 3 votes
#10 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:18 PM EST{"commentId":10581066,"authorDomain":"spage-1"}
Jesus IS the reason for the season so why do we have to be PC??? Without Him, there would be no holiday. I say Merry Christmas even when someone says Happy Holidays to me. I am offended by the fact that we have to watch what we say if it has any bearing on Christianity at all.
{"commentId":10581066,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"spage-1"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10581181,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10592810,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
It's policy in at least one of my jobs to do that as well..... I still say merry christmas... I dare them to fire me for my "religious expression" hahaha, I'll be set for life!
{"commentId":10592810,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10592869,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
It's policy in at least one of my jobs to do that as well..... I still say merry christmas... I dare them to fire me for my "religious expression" hahaha, I'll be set for life!
{"commentId":10592869,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10603303,"authorDomain":"Missy2"}
It's arrogant to assume everyone celebrates Christmas. If well-wishers are adamant about saying "Merry Christmas", I wonder why? Why should strangers care about other strangers' activities in December?
Have a nice holiday, or, don't.
{"commentId":10603303,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"Missy2"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10638196,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
And I don't assume erryone celebrates christmas... but I'M going to say merry christmas cuz that's what i celebrate... my point is I shouldn't have to change it just in case I might offend some weiner who would get offended over something like that.
{"commentId":10638196,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10640065,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10642006,"authorDomain":"Missy2"}
I celebrate Christmas and LOVE it. I can do that while respecting the fact that some people don't celebrate that particular day by saying 'Have a nice holiday'. It doesn't take away from what we do in our home and shows some respect for others at the same time.
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{"commentId":10747959,"authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
oh... well I'm a jerk on purpose a lot... so the respect thing doesn't really concern me lol
{"commentId":10747959,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"ruthlessmoose"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10577141,"authorDomain":"mooncrow"}
I say Merry Christmas, and I won't be offended if anyone says something else to me like Happy Hanukkah! or Happy Kwanzaa! or Bah Humbug or whatever. I say that we should all share what is in our hearts.
{"commentId":10577141,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"mooncrow"}
- 8 votes
#11 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:12 PM EST{"commentId":10577293,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10578235,"authorDomain":"mooncrow"}
I hear ya. I hate to shop ... have actually been doing most of it online the last couple of years, except for groceries and everyday necessities. I have discovered as I have gotten older that my time has become way more important to me. I just can't waste it driving, parking, looking ... driving, parking looking ... driving, parking looking.
{"commentId":10578235,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"mooncrow"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10578494,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
I hate to shop ... have actually been doing most of it online the last couple of years, except for groceries and everyday necessities.
Same here Moon, but I don't mind shopping on line. Especially the places that give you free shipping and returns.
{"commentId":10578494,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":10577224,"authorDomain":"tishamauro"}
I say Merry Santa Claus Day!! I love Santa!
Also I don't care what other people call it. I have more important things to worry about at Santa Claus time, like spiked egg-nog. Yummy. :)
{"commentId":10577224,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"tishamauro"}
- 9 votes
#12 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:15 PM EST{"commentId":10577399,"authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
Freedom Writer- RUM!!! Specifically Captain Morgan's!!
{"commentId":10577399,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":10577436,"authorDomain":"tishamauro"}
We use Captain Morgans spiced rum. I have never tried it with brandy. I'll give it a try this year. :)
{"commentId":10577436,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"tishamauro"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10578544,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
Specifically Captain Morgan's!!
Yup, absolutely the best IMHO.
{"commentId":10578544,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":10578938,"authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
Kim- We'll have to meet in Portales and meet the Captain! :)
{"commentId":10578938,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10579331,"authorDomain":"dkemmerer"}
Bah humbug!
Give me a nice icy vodka martini! :)
{"commentId":10579331,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"dkemmerer"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10579412,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
Kim- We'll have to meet in Portales and meet the Captain! :)
I know a good Cattle Baron LOL who would be the perfect host. =)
{"commentId":10579412,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":10579522,"authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
LOL!!
{"commentId":10579522,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10580722,"authorDomain":"greglujan"}
is that Portales NM?
(which is, incidentally, home to the bar with the DUMBEST name in the world)
{"commentId":10580722,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"greglujan"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10581440,"authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
What's the name of it...as it's too far for one drink!!
{"commentId":10581440,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"tcooper2004"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10582287,"authorDomain":"greglujan"}
The Dawg Houze
first: no way is a greyhound (mascott for Eastern NM University) a "dawg." UGA has the Bulldog, the tough looks of which make it only marginally acceptable in my book to misspell the name to look cool. Greyhound? No friggin way.
second: it's ALWAYS bad to substitute "z" for "s," that just smacks of desperation.
anyway, I'm from Alb. so I kinda have my prejudices about that part of the state to begin with, but I'm pretty sure I'd say the same thing if someone tried to refer to the Lobo as a "dawg" that lived in a "Houze"
{"commentId":10582287,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"greglujan"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10592995,"authorDomain":"sweet-sinsationism"}
is that Portales NM? (which is, incidentally, home to the bar with the DUMBEST name in the world)
ROFL I thought you were reffering to Goobers bar. That may be the second dumbest name for a bar in P-Ville.
{"commentId":10592995,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"sweet-sinsationism"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10594339,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
I had forgotten all about Goobs. I like the name and college night is sooo much fun even for us ahhh, uhhhm, well, alum and older souls. Goodness I haven't been in a long time now. =(
{"commentId":10594339,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10579618,"authorDomain":"t-bourlon"}
Well I think people should say what they want. I say "Merry Christmas," unless I know the person is Jewish or Muslim. I even say "Merry Christmas" to atheists, because you don't have to be a Christian to celebrate. IMO, there are TWO Christmases, the religious one and the secular American Traditional one, which is the one I think most of us really celebrate. The one with Rudolph and Charlie Brown and the Grinch, decorated northern pine trees and flying reindeer, etc. I am a Christian, but I don't think there's any harm in celebrating the American traditional Christmas, any more than there's any harm to Halloween, Thanksgiving or July 4th. I would ask that, if someone does greet you with "Merry Christmas," that you NOT assume it's an insult - most likely it's just a seasonal version of "Have a Nice Day."
As for the real meaning, this year it will be a very meager Christmas. I have that John/Yoko song going through my head, and I don't even LIKE Lennon. But it's just money, like so many people, and this year I may only be buying one gift each for my kids. That bothers me more than anything; I usually go overboard and buy them tons of stuff, but this year the money just isn't there. My older daughter keeps telling me not to worry about it, and to remember the REAL reason for Christmas. I promise I'll try, and hope it's a good one, without any fear.
{"commentId":10579618,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"t-bourlon"}
- 4 votes
#13 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:58 PM EST{"commentId":10580574,"authorDomain":"angels01"}
The Cathjolic Encyclopedia gives some insight as to where Christmas originated. People in some cultures put religious beliefs on that day. But nowhere in the bible is Christmas mentioned nor the day or really even the month of Christs birth. But the one day we should celebrate is the calculated calendar day of Jesus' death Nisan as his death was a gift for many of us!
Pagan customs centring round the January calends gravitated to Christmas. Tiele (Yule and Christmas, London, 1899) has collected many interesting examples. The strence (etrennes) of the Roman January 1 (bitterly condemned by Tertullian, de Idol., xiv and x, and by Maximus of Turin, Horn. ciii, de Kai. gentil., in P.L., LVII, 492, etc.) survive as Christmas presents, cards, boxes. The calend fires were a scandal even to Rome, and St. Boniface obtained from Pope Zachary their abolition. But probably the Yule-log in its many forms was originally lit only in view of the cold season. Only in 1577 did it become a public ceremony in England; its popularity, however, grew immense, especially in Provence; in Tuscany, Christmas is simply called ceppo (block, log—Bonaccorsi, op. cit., p. 145, n. 2). Besides, it became connected with other usages; in England, a tenant had the right to feed at his lord's expense as long as a wheel, i.e. a round, of wood, given by him, would burn; the landlord gave to a tenant a load of wood on the birth of a child; Kindsfuss was a present given to children on the birth of a brother or sister, and even to the farm animals on that of Christ, the universal little brother. (Tiele, op. cit., p. 95 sqq.) Gervase of Tilbury (thirteenth century) says that in England grain is exposed on Christmas night to gain fertility from the dew which falls in response to "Rorate Coeli"; the tradition that trees and flowers blossomed on this night is first quoted from an Arab geographer of the tenth century, and extended to England. In a thirteenth-century French epic, candles are seen on the flowering tree. In England it was Joseph of Arimathea's rod which flowered at Glastonbury and elsewhere; when September 3 became September 14, in 1752, 2000 people watched to see if the Quainton thorn (crataegus proecox) would blow on Christmas New Style; and as it did not, they refused to keep the New Style festival. From this belief of the calends practice of greenery decorations (forbidden by Archbishop Martin of Braga, c. 575, P.L., LXXIII—mistletoe was bequeathed by the Druids) developed the Christmas tree, first definitely mentioned in 1605 at Strasburg, and introduced into France and England in 1840 only, by Princess Helena of Mecklenburg and the Prince Consort respectively. Only with great caution should the mysterious benefactor of Christmas night—Knecht Ruprecht, Pelzmartel on a wooden horse, St. Martin on a white charger, St. Nicholas and his "reformed" equivalent, Father Christmas—be ascribed to the stepping of a saint into the shoes of Woden, who, with his wife Berchta, descended on the nights between December 25 and January 6, on a white horse to bless earth and men. Fires and blazing wheels starred the hills, houses were adorned, trials suspended, and feasts celebrated (cf. Bonaccorsi, op. cit., p. 151). Knecht Ruprecht, at any rate (first found in a mystery of 1668 and condemned in 1680 as a devil) was only a servant of the Holy Child. But no doubt aboriginal Christian nuclei attracted pagan accretions. For the calend mumming; the extraordinary and obscene Modranicht; the cake in honor of Mary's "afterbirth", condemned (692) at the Trullan Council, can. lxxix; the Tabulw Fortun (food and drink offered to obtain increase, and condemned in 743), see Tiele, op. cit., ch. viii, ix—Tiele's data are perhaps of greater value than his deductions—and Ducange (op. cit., s. vv. Cervula and Kalendae). In England, Christmas was forbidden by Act of Parliament in 1644; the day was to be a fast and a market day; shops were compelled to be open; plum puddings and mince pies condemned as heathen. The conservatives resisted; at Canterbury blood was shed; but after the Restoration Dissenters continued to call Yuletide "Fooltide".
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- 1 vote
#14 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:38 PM EST{"commentId":10580900,"authorDomain":"k-joy"}
When I am wished well I do not bother with correcting people and I am certainly not offended. Normally I respond in kind. If I hear "Happy Hanukkah" I return the greeting as is. I am not Jewish but I see no reason to get particular about it. It is simply a greeting during a joyous time of year, anyone that gets bent out of shape over it is just looking for something to complain about.
{"commentId":10580900,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"k-joy"}
- 8 votes
#15 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:51 PM EST{"commentId":10581017,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10583865,"authorDomain":"dkemmerer"}
I usually tell folks to have a great holiday, but I really don't give a @!$%# how they greet me.
It's the sentiment that counts, and I usually just say thank you!
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":10580947,"authorDomain":"trentroy-1"}
First, I'm christian, and secondly, I like to tick people off, so I say Merry Christmas and kinda hope for some gung ho atheist (who has no problem getting paid holiday pay for it) to have a fit about it. Sorry, but its kinda fun.
{"commentId":10580947,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"trentroy-1"}
- 1 vote
#16 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:53 PM EST{"commentId":10581038,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10581127,"authorDomain":"greglujan"}
can we all agree that capitalizing "christ" in Christmas as in:
"Merry CHRISTmas" is obnoxious though?
{"commentId":10581127,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"greglujan"}
{"commentId":10592431,"authorDomain":"cathyg-1"}
It is Greck and usually when people do that they're intending to be obnoxious. I've been tempted a few times with a few scrooges who have serious phobias about the word "Christmas".
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{"commentId":10601829,"authorDomain":"trentroy-1"}
I have never done the "CHRISTmas" thing, but I do tend to capilalize the C in Christmas. I think people who do the "CHRISTmas" thing are kinda like me, trying to tick off people who they feel are overly politically correct. I'm all about political correctness, but there are times when it just becomes ridiculous. If people are offended by Christmas, then they shouldn't celebrate the holiday, and shouldn't get time off work for it. I mean really, I'm not Jewish or Muslim but I'm not offended by their holidays, I also don't take off work for them or tell them to rename them. Too many people choose to make big deals out of everything, which I blame on boredom.
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{"commentId":10582685,"authorDomain":"stinkweepete"}
I'd say "Bah, Humbug!", but I find it to be a bit played out.
I prefer "Happy ridiculous credit card bill in January!"
or "Happy telling your kids to shut the hell up or they're not getting anything month!"
{"commentId":10582685,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"stinkweepete"}
- 6 votes
#17 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 6:11 PM EST{"commentId":10583041,"authorDomain":"maggie-anne"}
Merry Christmas to one and all.
{"commentId":10583041,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"maggie-anne"}
- 2 votes
#18 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 6:30 PM EST{"commentId":10583141,"authorDomain":"maggie-anne"}
I am just happy that I live in a place where it doesn't matter what your religious belief is. That you can celebrate or not your own holiday and rejoice in the fact that others are free to do the same. It's a wonderful time of the year. I love the looks on the faces of my grandchildren on Christmas morning. Their parents are raising them in the church and they are very well aware of what December 25th is and why we celebrate the birth of Jesus. We are a Christian family and are happy with our faith. I resent the PC attitude. I don't mind seeing a Mennorah placed next to a Nativity Scene and if the others have a visible symbol to display I would have no problem with it. I do resent those that want God removed from everything and expect us to hide the Ten Commandments and etc. I don't denigrate their religion and I would appreciate it greatly if they would leave mine alone.
{"commentId":10583141,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"maggie-anne"}
- 3 votes
#19 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 6:35 PM EST{"commentId":10592534,"authorDomain":"cathyg-1"}
I would venture to say that many if not most Christians would not care in the least about symbols from other religions being displayed. I'm betting a lot of religi-phobes would have tons of opinions though. They always throw other symbols up in our faces not realizing they are more likely the only ones who would make an issue of it.
{"commentId":10592534,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"cathyg-1"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10585198,"authorDomain":"Lifeflame"}
I wrote down Other for the poll and here is why...I look at the person first, If I see a Cross, Crusifix WWJD bracelet or something to designate Christianity then I say Merry Christmass, If I see a Star Of David Or Mazzuah (sp) I will say Happy Hanukkah. If I see the signs of another Religion then I say Happy Hollidays. Closer to Kwanza I will add Happy Kwanza, Closer to Yule I will add Joyfull Yule since that is what I celebrate. Often in December near the start of Hanukkah I will, if I am unsure of what Holliday(s) they Celebrate I will say 'may your Holidays be Blessed" (....or Joyfull or words to that effect) I have found that the important thing is to acknowledge that Holliday(s) of the person I am speaking to, and I have never been repremanded for this, and have often been thanked for my thoughtfullness.
Blessed' Be
Laura Lifeflame
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- 2 votes
#20 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 8:36 PM EST{"commentId":10586790,"authorDomain":"dave5069"}
What greeting I give to people depends on what I know about them. Merry Christmas to Christians and anyone who celebrates Christmas. Happy Hannukah to fellow Jews. Happy Kwanza to people I know celebrate Kwanza. Happy Holidays, if I have no clue what the person celebrates. I take no offense to anyone that greets me with any holiday greeting. I assume they are bring nice and inclusive no matter what they celebrate or think I celebrate. Life is too short to take offense when the intent of others is good.
{"commentId":10586790,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"dave5069"}
- 1 vote
#21 - Mon Nov 9, 2009 10:22 PM EST{"commentId":10588514,"authorDomain":"pennid"}
If someone smiles at me and says "Merry Christmas," it makes my day. It is a special time of the year for many, and even those who don't celebrate the Christian idea of Christmas can enjoy the lights and decorations. The spirit of Christmas to me is "peace on earth," something that everyone can certainly wish for.
{"commentId":10588514,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"pennid"}
- 3 votes
#22 - Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:24 AM EST{"commentId":10588837,"authorDomain":"VerbalBarb"}
I think all the talk you hear annually about people complaining about people saying "Merry Christmas" is heavily overblown. Seriously, how often does it really happen? Just another thing to try to get some people outraged over, at a time of year when people should be thinking about peace.
If there's a holiday, I'm going to use that holiday's name when wishing people Happy, Merry or anything else. I've never had anyone get upset wishing them "Merry Christmas"; don't see any need to stop doing it now.
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- 2 votes
#23 - Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:55 AM EST{"commentId":10590394,"authorDomain":"kareem-in-my-coffee"}
Since I dont celebrate Xmas, Merry Xmas means nothing to me. It's simple December 25. It means the same as me saying Happy Chanukah to those who don't celebrate that holiday.
Sometimes I will say thanks to a Merry Xmas and then wish them a Happy Chanukah.
It's not really a big deal....but to many people December 25 is simply a day in the year. It's almost ignorant to run around and wish everyone on every corner Merry Xmas. It has nothing to do with being PC or not.
It's about knowing that not everyone celebrates that holiday. Pretty simple actually. And of course, we are ALL welcome in this country last time I checked.
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- 2 votes
#24 - Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:41 AM EST{"commentId":10604175,"authorDomain":"Missy2"}
Absolutely, Kareem. If someone wishes you a Happy Holiday, just take it at face value. Whatever is celebrated, most people usually have off on the 25th, so enjoy the day and the greetings.
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{"commentId":10591234,"authorDomain":"perrie"}
Almost a year ago, I responded to an MSNBC article called "Retailers tiptoe between Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays" and that is how I became a NV member, LOL! So this article gave me a giggle when I saw it.
I have a very simple rule.
If I know what a person's faith is that is what I wish them. If I don't then it's Happy Holidays. But I would never make a big deal personally, about being greeted by the wrong holiday. Heck...you can't go wrong with me...I'm from an interfaith marriage anyway, LOL!
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- 2 votes
#25 - Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:54 AM EST{"commentId":10591431,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10591760,"authorDomain":"kareem-in-my-coffee"}
As far as I'm concerned, you are wrong. I don't get all crazed about it as I am pro choice in all issues and anyone can say whatever they want.....but you are wrong assuming it's always appropriate.
{"commentId":10591760,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"kareem-in-my-coffee"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10591987,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
{"commentId":10593154,"authorDomain":"perrie"}
Freedom,
It is appropriate if you know, what a person is, or as a default when you don't know what they celebrate. But wishing someone Merry Christmas, when you know that they celebrate another holiday, is kind of like saying their holiday doesn't count. The golden rule applies.
{"commentId":10593154,"threadId":"720161","contentId":"3480051","authorDomain":"perrie"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10593696,"authorDomain":"kareem-in-my-coffee"}
Perrie,
The religious cause their own problems by not respecting others. Then they whine and cry when others don't respect them.
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- 3 votes
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Happy Hanukkah to you!!!!!
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- 1 vote
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This is almost a repeat of last year.
So let's just go back to the basics. The holidays, if good will is the message, which it is, must include respect.
If you don't know what someone is I think Happy Holidays is appropriate. If you want to say Merry Christmas, that is OK, but you could get a Happy Hanukkah or Happy Kwanza said back to you. It your good with that so am I.
If you know that a person is Jewish and you say Merry Christmas to them, it is disrespectful to them. You wish them Happy Hanukkah and they wish you Merry Christmas...
Isn't that not only logical but respectful?
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":10594805,"authorDomain":"kareem-in-my-coffee"}
Well, how odd that FW would wish anyone Happy Hanukkah. He stated that everyone would get a Merry Xmas like it or not.
Thanks for evolving.
(EEK....wonder if I'll get deleted again......well, I also got a friend request....so it's even steven!!!!)
Im really a very peaceful person. This just happens to be my thing. IN REAL LIFE, I wish everyone Happy Holiday because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
I just have a hard time understanding those who don't feel that way.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":10595161,"authorDomain":"perrie"}
Kareem,
Well, how odd that FW would wish anyone Happy Hanukkah. He stated that everyone would get a Merry Xmas like it or not.
Well I had to check that because he/she didn't say that in the article but did say that in the post, and that is not right, if you know someone is of a different faith.
Im really a very peaceful person. This just happens to be my thing. IN REAL LIFE, I wish everyone Happy Holiday because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
I tend to feel the same way when I don't know what a person celebrates, but also calling someone a moron, isn't nice....insensitive might have been a better word. Not that I am trying to start something with you. I am not. But since this article is about choosing our words carefully, we must try to do that all the time, not just at the holiday season.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":10596144,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
I just have a hard time understanding those who don't feel that way.
Hey Kareem, this is not to be considered an ugly response by any means... but because you said you had a had time understanding let me share a few of my thoughts with you. Number one I am old school. It has been Merry Christmas for me for forty plus years now. It is a habit that I probably cant and really don't want to break. For me Jesus is the reason for my season. Hence Christ not X in my mas. I wont even write X-MAS VS Christmas because for me it is like X-ing Christ right out of Christmas. I do not get offended when people wish me Seasons Greetings or Happy Holidays but I prefer to say Merry Christmas myself because that's the way and what it is about for me. I have clients and friends that I know believe differently than I do. I try to be observant of their beliefs and do not try to rub mine in their face.They don't get offended if I slip and say Merry Christmas and I thank them for their holiday greetings to me. After all isn't it about wishing someone the very best, no matter what words are used? Every year except last year I have a very big Christmas party and my formal invitations are mailed out inviting all my friends, clients and family to my Christmas party. I always have plenty of friends at the party and that includes all races, ethnicity's, religions etc. None of them get their butt feathers ruffled and we end up having a blast each Christmas because we come together in friendship and love to celebrate with one another. I even have a dear friend who is a Jehovah's Witness that wont miss the party and has attended for many years without fail. I know she doesn't believe in this formal celebration or any other holiday for that matter....but I just could not exclude her by not mailing the invitation,she is my friend and I thought it might hurt her feelings worse to find out she was not invited VS inviting her in friendship and letting her decide whether to come or not.
What gets me is the people who make a big deal by jumping in your face when you say Merry Christmas. One woman two years ago told me to re wish her a Seasons Greetings or a Happy Holidays wish because she could not accept my Merry Christmas wish. I smiled and said "have a wonderful day ma'am.... Seasons Greetings and thank you for coming in." This just made her more angry...I mean there are just people who will make it known during the holidays no matter what you say it is wrong. She and others just like her, I think are just looking for a fight.
It is just my personal opinion that if someone says Merry Christmas, Seasons Greetings, Happy Holidays, Merry Kwanzaa, Happy Hanukkah, Have a Good Diwali, Experience a Enlightening Rohatsu, Enjoy a Peaceful Solstice or Have a Cool Yule, the wish is itself no matter what the words......is meant as a positive, heartfelt sentiment.
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- 7 votes
{"commentId":10596891,"authorDomain":"KimmieLynn"}
but because you said you had a had time understanding
I'm sorry this sentence should have said hard time understanding.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":10604415,"authorDomain":"Missy2"}
Kimberly, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said some people are just ready and waiting to criticize no matter what is said to them. That's why covering your bases with a generic 'happy holiday' to strangers works well. There are those looking for an opportunity to be insulted and they will invariably find one. There's always a rotten apple in every barrel.
I sincerely don't care what kind of a holiday most people have anyway and vice versa so the greeting is best left generic.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":10606007,"authorDomain":"kareem-in-my-coffee"}
Clearly 25.3 clearly states that FW believes it's appropriate to wish everyone Merry Xmas.
I stand by my statement that in this day and age if one thinks it's appropriate to say Merry Xmas to everyone, it shows a complete lack of enlightenment and a complete lack of respect for others.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":10606233,"authorDomain":"perrie"}
I stand by my statement that in this day and age if one thinks it's appropriate to say Merry Xmas to everyone, it shows a complete lack of enlightenment and a complete lack of respect for others.
Now I agree.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":10606576,"authorDomain":"leathernlacekitten"}
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Freedom,
This has nothing to do with PC. I am not the least bit PC. And a poll of how many? Hardly a statistical group. This has to do with being polite. It has to do with respect. Why would you knowingly say the wrong salutation to a person? If I know a person is Christian, I wish them Merry Christmas. It is about the Birth of Christ. If I know they are Jewish, then I wish them Happy Hanukkah, since it is about a miracle that happened after the Temple was desecrated. If I know someone is black and celebrates Kwanzaa, I wish them Happy Kwanzaa since that is about black self determination. The holiday's meanings are not interchangeable just because they happen at the same time of the year. And when in doubt, say Happy Holiday or Merry Christmas if you really want to. What I don't think is nice is knowingly wishing the wrong thing to a person, because you think that your holiday trumps all others.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":10616223,"authorDomain":"t-bourlon"}
Like I say, say what you want. If you feel "Happy Holidays" is more appropriate, then go for it. However, as I said earlier we have this American Tradition of celebrating Christmas, just like we have an American Tradition of celebrating Thanksgiving and July 4th. Further, would you ever ask a Mexican to not say, "Happy Cinco de Mayo," just because you don't celebrate it? I mean, to me THAT's just rude! So why get so uptight about people saying "Merry Christmas?" If I specifically KNOW a person is Jewish or Muslim then I'd say the "happy holidays" thing, but I don't know if they don't tell me, and generally I don't ask people what their religion is - now THAT could cause a fight! So if Kareem wants to be offended, well, sorry but that's your choice, not mine.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":10618612,"authorDomain":"perrie"}
T Burton,
If I specifically KNOW a person is Jewish or Muslim then I'd say the "happy holidays" thing, but I don't know if they don't tell me, and generally I don't ask people what their religion is -
That was all that I was trying to say.
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{"commentId":10626381,"authorDomain":"Missy2"}
It isn't the type of greeting which rankles for me at this time of year. It's the effort to turn everything 'Christmas' into 'holiday'. Please don't try and tell me it's a 'holiday tree'. It's a Christmas Tree. Same with decorations. Holiday decorations? Which one, Easter? Valentine's Day? Sorry but a red-and-green elf is a Christmas decoration, not a generic holiday one. I don't purchase the latter.
This time of year we see a proliferation of fairs and bazaars. I go to the ones labeled 'Christmas Bazaar', not 'Holiday Bazaar'. I don't hang a 'holiday wreath' on my door, I hang a Christmas wreath.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":10629916,"authorDomain":"perrie"}
Kathleen
This time of year we see a proliferation of fairs and bazaars. I go to the ones labeled 'Christmas Bazaar', not 'Holiday Bazaar'. I don't hang a 'holiday wreath' on my door, I hang a Christmas wreath.
Where did I even imply that? Of course a Christmas tree is a Christmas tree, and Your Christmas wreath, is a Christmas Wreath. Christmas Bazaars, well if it is sponsored by a Church should still be a Christmas Bazaar, by a town...Holiday is more inclusive. This is a common sense thing, and I don't think that all things need to be "Holiday". I have explained this in post 25.19.
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{"commentId":10642105,"authorDomain":"Missy2"}
Perrie, I wasn't implying anything about what you said; not at all. I agree with you on much of what you say.
A 'Holiday' bazaar may be more inclusive if sponsored by a town but it's still silly to pretend it's anything but a Christmas bazaar. Same with a 'Christmas' party. If I invite my friends to a holiday party and have decorations for Christmas, who am I fooling? Please come to my party if you wish to share my traditions and I'll come to your party for whatever holiday you celebrate and share yours. This meshing of any and all holidays in the month of December is silly.
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