What Do You Do About Rude People In Public?
| Ignore them | |
| Get the manager involved | |
| Avoid them by shopping online | |
| Avoid them by sending someone else to shop | |
| Smack them in the head and tell them to move | |
| Yell at them about thier breach of manners | |
| Other |
Recently there was a story about a Walmart shopper who line jumped in front of another customer, moved the other customers items so that she could be next. When the customer that she line jumped complained the cashier tried to tell her she couldnt line jump, the manager had to be called, and because of her physical and verbal outburst the police had to be called. Then accused the other customer, the cashier, the manager, and the police officers that had to eventually respond with racism. The woman was facing assault charges agains the officers, as well as distubing the peace, and resisting arrest. The woman eventually accepted a plea bargain
http://www.kait8.com/global/story.asp?s=11540235
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This is my question especially since many of us are getting ready to start our Holiday shopping. How do you deal with rude people? I try very hard to be pleasant, but some times it is extremely hard for me. I don't know how I would have reacted if someone line jumped before me, as in past experiences I have sometimes got the point where I am ready to physically move someone for doing such.
So what is your philosphy for dealing with rude people?
Depends on the situation. Cutting in line is never acceptable unless that person had another holding there place in line. ie kids coming back with their Dad to join Mom etc.
The only time I ever became physical was with a group of teenagers who pushed this old lady out of the way so they could order first. I arrested the one who pushed the old lady with an assault. Then told the other two to get lost. When I want to be I can be physcially intimidating but most of the time I'm just a cute teddy bear... with claws.
Having a hero complex can be pretty rough. Been shot at twice and stabbed once so it does have it's downsides.
I wouldn't advocate becoming physical in this circumstance... but I would say that, especially had I been the person at the front of the line when she showed up, her crap would have ended up being pitched across the store, with a few choice words being sent her way...
I've actually been in a similar situation before... and done almost exactly this. Often, these self-important jackasses are just bullies who wilt from real confrontation when it presents itself to them and their behavior. Obviously not always, and it is a crap shoot whether or not you'll just end up escalating the situation...
But that's just me. :^D I'm not advocating this course for anyone else, just what I have and would do... lol...
Often, these self-important jackasses are just bullies who wilt from real confrontation when it presents itself to them and their behavior. Obviously not always, and it is a crap shoot whether or not you'll just end up escalating the situation...
Exactly, I've been in many of these situations, and I have had it go both ways, and often it is someone just seeing what kinda stunt they can get away with, but I've had several instances where its people instigating for a fight (I'm always aware of these people, not just for safety, but also for not wanting to be involved with criminal charges). If I can ignore an instigator easily, then I will do just that; but in the instance like the Wal-Mart one, I sure as hell would have flung their sh*t away and told her off.
I've even had quite a few instances where employees are incredibly rude (not as rude as this instance, but actually pretty close), in which case I sure as heck am not above calling in their manager, and even getting the district manager involved.
Well for one, I think that woman was just plain "sick", obviously. I tend to ignore them mostly, which can be hard to do, like screaming children, parents not paying attention, etc. But sometimes there is a time and place to step in. I will say something if it directly involves my space. If it's a situation that I do not think I alone should handlle, I will call for help. For instance, once I was in a store shopping and a bum kept harrassing me for money, food, etc. I got really irritated as he kept coming back. So I got the mananger and he was escorted outside.
Freedom, that's excellent, I love the sandwich idea (some really need food).....only he really wasn't a bum, just acting like one, he was seeking drugs, money for them anyway - don't do well with them and don't trust their behavior.
Ignoring rude folk only encourages repeat behavior. Such folk should be called out immediately, although if you think it may get violent call for backup first.
FW, I know someone who does the sandwich trick, too. works like a charm.
Yuppers!!!
Ihave to agree with Decurion on the fact that to ignore these type of people is to them a free pass to them anytime.
People must not let others infringe on their peace of mind for the sake of keeping the peace.The one who is offended usually comes up on the short end.
The woman in question was completely out of line(no pun intended) and was dealt with in the right manner.I'd bet she'll think twice before making an ass of herself in the future.
Yuppers again....Hek:)
Depends on my mood. Sometimes, I let people with fewer items go in front of me...but if anyone forced her way, I probably couldn't hold my tongue.
I was at Trader Joe's one year on New Year's Eve picking up a few things and before me in line was a group of what I assume to be roommates. The store was packed and they had parked their cart in line when they came in, then each took turns shopping. OK, fine. Rather clever and they were done by the time they were being checked out.
But then they insisted on going through their full cart and figuring out which things each would pay for...really, guys? You couldn't have kept them separated or just arranged for one person to pay and the rest of you to pay him back later, rather than holding up a line going down the aisles of the store and aggravating the cashier? The line was easily 10 carts deep at this point.
Usually if someone is thoughtless enough to line jump I just let them go. If they are that short on patience and social skills, the less time they are in my presence the better off we both are.
River, great way to handle that, but....here it comes, sometimes, like with a snobby woman I know of that frequents a certain store, she thinks she's entitled and I do say something to her.....she's a bit -c - h......seriously.
Lol... There are those. If I'm familiar with them, I might call them on it. It's not so often I frequent the same places though, so not much chance of me knowing 'em.
I hear ya, but as they say, "there's always one in the crowd" The only time I really don't say something River is if I feel it would put me in danger, otherwise, I'm usually helping someone else out as well, ya know! There are dangerous/sick people, there are obnoxiious people, and well there are just plain stupid with no manners and sometimes they need to be told. Sometimes I see a look in their eyes that says to me "I didn't know"
There are dangerous/sick people, there are obnoxiious people, and well there are just plain stupid with no manners and sometimes they need to be told. Sometimes I see a look in their eyes that says to me "I didn't know"
Right right.....
I have a time or two, piped up with an "EXCUSE ME?", but that was back in my younger days when I was up to the ensuing confrontation. As a rule, management has plenty to do without making a big issue out of plain stupid, so I just take a back seat and let them go.
*footnote*
For people who are really and truly downright rude, let them go and do and be. Karma will get them, and if you don't teach them different, they will continue to be idiots and net themselves even more bad karma. :)
And, that is precisely why I step in for those that can't. I see many of of our senior citizens takin advantage of like this....I may not be able to stop them from what they do, but I can embarrass them and let them know I see it.
I see many of of our senior citizens takin advantage of like this....I may not be able to stop them from what they do, but I can embarrass them and let them know I see it.
Now that's a good point, but I still don't interfere with them. Seniors have plenty enough on their minds, and I've held my grandma's hand when she was adjusting to the new-fangled Wal-Mart style grocery shopping. Most are already disoriented and stressed. When I encounter them, I even sometimes put them ahead of me in line.
I don't call them -rude-, though. Just unaware.
River,
My name is Karma :)
bigbugy - good one! Hope to see you at our local Walmart;)
I'll be the guy shoving old ladies who think it's ok to cut in line.(Joking) :)
Yay - my hero, hope your around when I need you, and I'm sure I will!
I also get annoyed with people who don't help bag when the store is busy. Again at Trader Joe's, I end up behind people who bring their own bags (great, hooray for them) but then stand there, adding 10 minutes or so to checkout time. They don't always have enough staff for a bagger at each line, so I bag my own groceries, saving time for me and those behind me.
Sure, the store is supposed to bag for you, but when it's busy and you are able-bodied, why not help out?
I found Trader Joe's a couple of years ago and love it! I take my own bags to every store and I had rather bag my own than let the cashier do it. I am a bit particular about the order in which groceries are to be placed in the bags, so it's just easier for me to do it myself. I arrange them on the belt in the order they are to be bagged in case the cashier starts before I can get to it. I had a disagreement with a cashier at Smith's yesterdy because i noticed instead of sliding them down to the bags in order, she was digging through everything and getting them mixed up. It was a new cashier I didn't know, so I told her the logic of my system. A little anal? Definitely!
Back to the rude people: If someone directly affects me, I'll say something. We don't have many bums here, but your sandwich idea sounds good, Freedom.
I've never thought about it, but it seems strange that in a city with 250,000 people I've only seen a couple of bums. Both of them were in front of what my daughter calls "the fat WalMart" (because every customer we saw was obese). It is in a less-desirable part of town that we stopped at on the way to a softball game.
Something to ponder: why do bums hang out in the bad part of town? Couldn't they make more money in a more up-scale area?
I guess I just quit thinking about it and start a conversation with someone else in the checkout lane...always about kids or grandkids or something of that nature how they have to be taught manners and what slobs young boys can be....keeps it from being a personal opinion on a particular person..doesn't help much but they have sinmmered down on occasion...
That's cool mstanley,good idea as long as it isn't the cashier. :)
I just leave. [It's generally me, anyway, I mean not that often, but every once in a while, if you get on my last nerve, blammo, my mouth goes off like Triple Barrel, but not All The Time, I Swear.]
You cant displace negative dark energy with negative energy. More effective to either ignore them, or model proper behavior(its called a teachable moment).
Be rude-er dur.
Nah, just shrug it off and move on. I figure they are having a bad day and leave it there.
Let them be an arse. Sooner or later someone else who is an arse will make their day. Now that I think about it that's karma.
I shake my head.. slightly .. and give them a look as I do.
I usually try to clear some distance between myself and idiots. Sometimes I'll try to involve the store management, Just to see what they'll do.
It's really hard to say what you will do in a given situation. Every situation is Unique. There are a lot of variables that determine what anyone is going to do about an Outrageosly Rude Idiot in a store.
Not to mention, how close to the surface my temper may be, at the time.
I enjoy calling people out in public. Somehow i"m too scary for anyone to retaliate lol
If you can get it to work, the Vulcan neck pinch is great, but pepper spray or a taser might have to do... Otherwise, just say in a normal tone of voice and volume (while coughing with an uncovered mouth) "Sorry, I'm a little slow, it's the swine flu that does it..."
I would love to smack them in the head but then that would be stooping to their level of rudeness.
Have anyone noticed that most rude people are white trash hillbillies or ghetto blacks.
Not so, Picker. I see the most well-to-do folks be just as rude. Economics and geographics have little to do with it. This is a matter of upbringing more than anything else.
Decurion-
I agree. The most rude people I have ever been in contact with have more money, education and social elevation than the majority of us. As a group, they think they are above "regular" people and and don't have to be nice to anyone but their own class. Granted, I've been the recipient of rudeness from all walks of life, but the most polite are usually regular folks like you and me. I think middle and lower class people place more stake in dignity and being polite.
Picker,
I'm going to disagree with you because I was in line once and the second person in front of me was a Dr. and he let everyone know. He was getting antsy about waiting in line and very loudly proclaimed "This shouldn't be happening to me! I'm a Dr. I have to get to my office!"
I'm sure, without asking his expertise, he was a proctologist because he sure acted like what he looked at every day.
I've found that the rusest people I encounter are older ladies ..... nasty old bats. lol
I'd tell them to go on-line, log into Newsvine and get into a healthcare reform discussion. Should be right a home with their own kind.
i worked in retail for six years. I endured every kind of verbal abuse imaginable, especially around the holidays. I would rather have my eyes gouged out then ever go through that again.
The truth is, most store managers don't care how rude the customer is, so long as they don't engage in physical assault. They just want to make the sale and get more money in the store. The whole "Customer Is always right" slogan is complete bullS**t.
I always toyed with the idea of a taser, but couldn't afford it on my $***ty salary.
Whatever happened to "Management Reserves the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone"? I worked briefly in a franchise restaurant ( I won't say which one), and our main manager was a fella who would go to bat for his employees in cases of rude customers. I mean to the point of ejecting said rude customers, screw the bill, don't come back, go ahead and complain to the franchisee or corporate, he didn't care. Great guy to work for.
It depends on what the offense and my mood. I just prefer to pick my own battles based on level of importance.
I click the little ! in the lower right corner....
That's nice Dennis, but we can't click on people like that in real life as when someone rude pushes to get in front of the grocery line without saying "Excuse me". I agree with your idea, it be great if clicking on the ! would get rid of everyone rude or at least put them on "mute"... I wish it were possible.
I dunno if clicking on the ! works here much, it doesn't seem to.......
Lilith,
That's when you think, "Wouldn't it be fun to carry a little pea shooter or slingshot and pop the person in the back of the head?" When they turn around to see who did it, you'll be standing there looking at the floor, at the impulse items displays, digging in your purse, anything to not show any involvement and hope like hell no one squeals on you.
I love the way you think ,Dkaz, I wish I could do it but ie "assault and battery" here.
I used to be a very violent physically violent person in my youth and I think nothing of slamming their haeds to the wall, but I changed that with help from a loved one and now I have an active violent fantasy life... but it doesn't help the bllod pressure, I implode and my ulcers blow too and it hurts like hell when I wanna seriously hurt ( at the least!) some person person thta might be rude by shoving or worse, like that
Love that pea shooter. You should see my ideas.... lol......
Mwahahhahaha.... fantasies can fun, can't they? ++grins+++
Love that pea shooter. You should see my ideas.... lol......
Mwahahhahaha.... fantasies can fun, can't they? ++grins+++
Yes they can, Lilith. Sometimes too much fun to where you actually carry them out....[laughing]
dkaz that would be hilarious, but see I am a giggler and I dont think I would be able to do it without giggling up a storm.
Me to Freedom. If I'm by myself, I can control it. But let another "imp" be with me and I'll get busted for sure. My face will turn beet red and my eyes will tear up because I'm trying to stifle the laughter. Then I can't control it anymore and out comes a huge burst of laughter. But damn, does it feel good when it's out.
Dkaz, if I carried them out, it be illegal, I assure you.....lol
Me to Freedom.
Well, this looks dumb. It looks like I'm trying to reach Freedom on a walkie-talkie.
"Me to Freedom. Me to Freedom. Come in Freedom"
Dkaz, if I carried them out, it be illegal, I assure you.....lol
Why is it, I believe you??
You believe me because you are one sharp lady! =)
lol...Freedom here.. go ahead dkaz, I am signal 15 at this time
Changing from signal 23 to 15.....
"Freedom!....Target opens at 3 AM on Black Friday...I'll pick you up at 2:30 AM....I repeat...2:30 AM...Did you copy?....Over!"
You believe me because you are one sharp lady! =)
Sharp as a mother phuckin' tack.
[Am I being rude? Or crude? I'm guessing crude.]
I chose "Avoid them by sending someone else to shop"
Only 1% of the 107 voters voted for that, which makes me think I'm the only one. I would be sad about being so lonely at this poll, but then I remember that not wanting to be around other people is part of the reason why I'm avoiding doing the shopping in the first place.
Usually I ignore people being rude. Sometimes I give dirty looks. Once, I was feeling very ill, and I was the grocery store to get some soup and deli meat, and a lady cut ahead of me in line at the deli counter. It was just the two of us waiting, and the confluence of factors tipped me right over the edge, so I said to her, "That was very rude." That's all I said. No cursing, or yelling. She actually looked remorseful and apologized.
Typically I will leave him and get in my car and go home.
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